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		<title>By: Consti Tution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Consti Tution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura,

Thank you for you comments. I will file them under M

For moronic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura,</p>
<p>Thank you for you comments. I will file them under M</p>
<p>For moronic.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik the Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry,

If you are a candidate who is similar to Medina in that your stance follows consitutional lines, then I wish you the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>If you are a candidate who is similar to Medina in that your stance follows consitutional lines, then I wish you the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Bramble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Bramble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I commend you on your success at ignoring me. The best way to ignore me would be to NOT RESPOND...

I think I&#039;ve touched a nerve...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I commend you on your success at ignoring me. The best way to ignore me would be to NOT RESPOND&#8230;</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve touched a nerve&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Bramble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Bramble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that all you&#039;ve got? More personal attacks? More personal drama? 

I suppose that is all that&#039;s left when there&#039;s nothing left of substance for you to say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that all you&#8217;ve got? More personal attacks? More personal drama? </p>
<p>I suppose that is all that&#8217;s left when there&#8217;s nothing left of substance for you to say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Consti Tution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Consti Tution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry,

&quot;The success of the Tea Party will be dependent on its willingness to just keep hammering away, to keep offering up challengers to the establishment and to never stop pushing and educating. &quot;

I think you are on to something here. Everyone seems to think the tea party should be putting forth their OWN candidate. I don&#039;t think that is necessarily the best option here. While many in this country thirst for a viable third party candidate I believe the tea party does it&#039;s best work when in the face of establishment politicians. I want to see MORE little old grandma&#039;s telling their representatives off. I want to see MORE doctors telling politicians that healthcare will ruin them. I believe the tea party serves best as the peoples voice. Besides, the electoral system pretty much makes it impossible for a third party candidate to succeed.

Laura,

I IGNORE what you say most of the time because I am not about to waste my time with an Ideologue who can&#039;t even be bothered with another point of view. And since you can&#039;t even keep the promises you make (i.e. your drama queen quitting of this site) I don&#039;t see where I should. I don&#039;t have to justify myself to someone who complains about the things she does herself. The attacking of the American public by you and several politicians over last summer only serves to show that it&#039;s anyone BUT your sides policies that are to blame. Take some responsibility yourself, then I will consider the same. My parents paid off their home, have no credit card debt, paid off their car, AND STILL LOST $60,000 worth of value in their home. They don&#039;t &quot;deserve&quot; it as you say.  I have no credit card debt, no mortgage, and make my car payments. Yet somehow I am EXPECTED to bail out those who can&#039;t handle their money? Go jump off a cliff with that and tell me how it works out. You cast a generic blanket over ALL of society and act as if YOU are better. Again it&#039;s that &quot;if only&quot; fantasy the left holds. &quot;If ONLY the public weren&#039;t so greedy!&quot; &quot;If only the public could balance their checkbooks!&quot; &quot;If ONLY the public listened to what we said this wouldn&#039;t have happened!&quot;

COW PIES!!

If only YOU kept YOUR promises then we wouldn&#039;t be having this discussion right now would we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>&#8220;The success of the Tea Party will be dependent on its willingness to just keep hammering away, to keep offering up challengers to the establishment and to never stop pushing and educating. &#8221;</p>
<p>I think you are on to something here. Everyone seems to think the tea party should be putting forth their OWN candidate. I don&#8217;t think that is necessarily the best option here. While many in this country thirst for a viable third party candidate I believe the tea party does it&#8217;s best work when in the face of establishment politicians. I want to see MORE little old grandma&#8217;s telling their representatives off. I want to see MORE doctors telling politicians that healthcare will ruin them. I believe the tea party serves best as the peoples voice. Besides, the electoral system pretty much makes it impossible for a third party candidate to succeed.</p>
<p>Laura,</p>
<p>I IGNORE what you say most of the time because I am not about to waste my time with an Ideologue who can&#8217;t even be bothered with another point of view. And since you can&#8217;t even keep the promises you make (i.e. your drama queen quitting of this site) I don&#8217;t see where I should. I don&#8217;t have to justify myself to someone who complains about the things she does herself. The attacking of the American public by you and several politicians over last summer only serves to show that it&#8217;s anyone BUT your sides policies that are to blame. Take some responsibility yourself, then I will consider the same. My parents paid off their home, have no credit card debt, paid off their car, AND STILL LOST $60,000 worth of value in their home. They don&#8217;t &#8220;deserve&#8221; it as you say.  I have no credit card debt, no mortgage, and make my car payments. Yet somehow I am EXPECTED to bail out those who can&#8217;t handle their money? Go jump off a cliff with that and tell me how it works out. You cast a generic blanket over ALL of society and act as if YOU are better. Again it&#8217;s that &#8220;if only&#8221; fantasy the left holds. &#8220;If ONLY the public weren&#8217;t so greedy!&#8221; &#8220;If only the public could balance their checkbooks!&#8221; &#8220;If ONLY the public listened to what we said this wouldn&#8217;t have happened!&#8221;</p>
<p>COW PIES!!</p>
<p>If only YOU kept YOUR promises then we wouldn&#8217;t be having this discussion right now would we?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Berggren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Berggren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik,

Based on my observations and analysis, Scott Brown emerged as a Tea Party candidate before the Tea Party intelligentsia caught on to the GOP coup de&#039;tat.  But now they are aware. on Judge Napolitano&#039;s Freedom Watch show, he and his guests have been hammering this point home for the past few days. I think Glenn beck&#039;s radio program of February 12th really brought the reality home.

In Texas we have a true Tea Party candidate in Debra Medina. Whether she wins or not, her presence has dramatically changed the race as our incumbent governor is now trying to adopt her campaign elements into his own rhetoric.

The success of the Tea Party will be dependent on its willingness to just keep hammering away, to keep offering up challengers to the establishment and to never stop pushing and educating. 

I am pushing with my own run for elective office. I may not win, but I will educate and my voice will be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik,</p>
<p>Based on my observations and analysis, Scott Brown emerged as a Tea Party candidate before the Tea Party intelligentsia caught on to the GOP coup de&#8217;tat.  But now they are aware. on Judge Napolitano&#8217;s Freedom Watch show, he and his guests have been hammering this point home for the past few days. I think Glenn beck&#8217;s radio program of February 12th really brought the reality home.</p>
<p>In Texas we have a true Tea Party candidate in Debra Medina. Whether she wins or not, her presence has dramatically changed the race as our incumbent governor is now trying to adopt her campaign elements into his own rhetoric.</p>
<p>The success of the Tea Party will be dependent on its willingness to just keep hammering away, to keep offering up challengers to the establishment and to never stop pushing and educating. </p>
<p>I am pushing with my own run for elective office. I may not win, but I will educate and my voice will be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik the Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The next evolution of the Tea Party is to kick the GOP out of its ranks or not.&quot;

Don&#039;t hold your breath. The Republican voters in Massachusetts had a golden opportunity to apply this principle by voting for Joe Kennedy. Whether he had a prayer to win is irrelevant. His stated stance on issues was the closest thing to what the Tea Partiers claimed to stand for all summer and into autumn. They had handed to them on a silver platter the chance to put their money where their mouths were. They could have voted their consciences and made a statement to the rest of the nation. However, the movement was hijacked by the GOP and, in the name of preventing a filibuster, most constituents simply showed up to vote down party lines and allowed big govt candidate Scott Brown to fill the void and continue Blue State biz as usual. It took less than 24 hours for Brown to stand at the podium and let Massachusetts Republicans realize that though he might be conservative for their state, he probably isn&#039;t almost anywhere else.

My prediction for TP 4.0 (as if it means anything) is that fewer will show up in the TP 1.0 format and try to start over, but hopefully with a stronger core and with more backbone. Because to continue on the present course after being absorbed by one of the two major parties would demonstrate that we are back at square one and that everything the TPs were trying to accomplish - so they said - was for naught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The next evolution of the Tea Party is to kick the GOP out of its ranks or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hold your breath. The Republican voters in Massachusetts had a golden opportunity to apply this principle by voting for Joe Kennedy. Whether he had a prayer to win is irrelevant. His stated stance on issues was the closest thing to what the Tea Partiers claimed to stand for all summer and into autumn. They had handed to them on a silver platter the chance to put their money where their mouths were. They could have voted their consciences and made a statement to the rest of the nation. However, the movement was hijacked by the GOP and, in the name of preventing a filibuster, most constituents simply showed up to vote down party lines and allowed big govt candidate Scott Brown to fill the void and continue Blue State biz as usual. It took less than 24 hours for Brown to stand at the podium and let Massachusetts Republicans realize that though he might be conservative for their state, he probably isn&#8217;t almost anywhere else.</p>
<p>My prediction for TP 4.0 (as if it means anything) is that fewer will show up in the TP 1.0 format and try to start over, but hopefully with a stronger core and with more backbone. Because to continue on the present course after being absorbed by one of the two major parties would demonstrate that we are back at square one and that everything the TPs were trying to accomplish &#8211; so they said &#8211; was for naught.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Bramble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Bramble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, read the link I provided. It&#039;s all right there. There are plenty of people in the movement talking about armed insurrection. I couldn&#039;t make that junk up...

Oh yeah, reading has already been shown to be something you are unwilling to do, so instead you go for the personal insults. That shows just how little you have to say of any value or substance.

I do not hate my fellow Amercians, but I am disappointed in them. I saw plenty of otherwise decent people do their fair share of contributing to the debt and housing crisis first hand. They refused to listen to anyone who tried to encourage them to be more responsible and sought out the people who told them what they wanted to hera. You see, they felt they were entitled to more. Before these otherwise good people start casting blame elsewhere, they need to take some of the responsibility for the current economic situation themselves. They are not totally to blame, but they are certainly not blameless by a long shot. Look at the stats- a large percentage of homes are in forclosure and even more with late pays of 30 days or more, a record number of delinquincies on other secured and unsecured debt, like cars and credit cards, people choosing to pay their CREDIT CARD BILL over their mortgage and a record number of bankruptcies, even after the tightening of laws. People choosing to just walk away from any home that is not their primary residence. 

Funny thing about that- no one from the federal government made them sign for and use that credit card. No one from the Obama administration made them sign the cash out loan refi based on an inflated housing value that put them upside down. No politician made them sign that adjustible rate or interest-only mortgage for payments they could barely afford on more house than they needed. But the GOVERNMENT was to blame for all that? Please. The average price home was $225k  at one point with the average American FAMILY with TWO wage earners was pulling in $55k a year. Add an average car payment of $400 a month. Add in hair, nails, dinners out several times a week, $4 lattes. Do the math- the average American was choosing to live irresponsibly and beyond their means. But it&#039;s all the government&#039;s fault? The average American had no part in it? If the government spent money it did not have, it was only representing what the average American was doing. And now that the house of cards has collapsed people are angry? And want Fed blood? Physician, heal thyself.

For those who did what they were supposed to, they are not in trouble. They didn&#039;t overspend, they saved as they always do and they planned ahead for the future. But they are not nearly as common as you try to make it seem.  We wouldn&#039;t be here if they were.

Maybe you are one of these people who placed yourself in a tough spot by a lack of restraint, I don&#039;t know. But your defensiveness begs the question. If you are, blaming the government is a temporary fix at best. Unless the average American learns how to handle their money and live within their needs, to be satisfied with what they have and can reasonably expect, we will be here again and then who&#039;s fault will it be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, read the link I provided. It&#8217;s all right there. There are plenty of people in the movement talking about armed insurrection. I couldn&#8217;t make that junk up&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh yeah, reading has already been shown to be something you are unwilling to do, so instead you go for the personal insults. That shows just how little you have to say of any value or substance.</p>
<p>I do not hate my fellow Amercians, but I am disappointed in them. I saw plenty of otherwise decent people do their fair share of contributing to the debt and housing crisis first hand. They refused to listen to anyone who tried to encourage them to be more responsible and sought out the people who told them what they wanted to hera. You see, they felt they were entitled to more. Before these otherwise good people start casting blame elsewhere, they need to take some of the responsibility for the current economic situation themselves. They are not totally to blame, but they are certainly not blameless by a long shot. Look at the stats- a large percentage of homes are in forclosure and even more with late pays of 30 days or more, a record number of delinquincies on other secured and unsecured debt, like cars and credit cards, people choosing to pay their CREDIT CARD BILL over their mortgage and a record number of bankruptcies, even after the tightening of laws. People choosing to just walk away from any home that is not their primary residence. </p>
<p>Funny thing about that- no one from the federal government made them sign for and use that credit card. No one from the Obama administration made them sign the cash out loan refi based on an inflated housing value that put them upside down. No politician made them sign that adjustible rate or interest-only mortgage for payments they could barely afford on more house than they needed. But the GOVERNMENT was to blame for all that? Please. The average price home was $225k  at one point with the average American FAMILY with TWO wage earners was pulling in $55k a year. Add an average car payment of $400 a month. Add in hair, nails, dinners out several times a week, $4 lattes. Do the math- the average American was choosing to live irresponsibly and beyond their means. But it&#8217;s all the government&#8217;s fault? The average American had no part in it? If the government spent money it did not have, it was only representing what the average American was doing. And now that the house of cards has collapsed people are angry? And want Fed blood? Physician, heal thyself.</p>
<p>For those who did what they were supposed to, they are not in trouble. They didn&#8217;t overspend, they saved as they always do and they planned ahead for the future. But they are not nearly as common as you try to make it seem.  We wouldn&#8217;t be here if they were.</p>
<p>Maybe you are one of these people who placed yourself in a tough spot by a lack of restraint, I don&#8217;t know. But your defensiveness begs the question. If you are, blaming the government is a temporary fix at best. Unless the average American learns how to handle their money and live within their needs, to be satisfied with what they have and can reasonably expect, we will be here again and then who&#8217;s fault will it be?</p>
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		<title>By: Consti Tution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Consti Tution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Instead of looking in the mirror to their own contributions to the housing troubles, debt crisis and their own responsibility for the state of the elected officials in Washington (voter apathy, low voter turnout, one-issue campaigns, negative campaigning, selection by soundbite), they admittedly went looking for someone to blame.&quot;

So let me get this straight. Someone who PAID their mortgage, had no credit debt, lost the value of their homes, is responsible for the failure? What a moron. Casting a blanked of responsibility over everyone but those who actually deserve it. But then again coming from someone who condones public harassment I&#039;m not surprised. Why do you HATE your fellow Americans? Oh yeah… because they don&#039;t agree with you. Look in the mirror yourself for a change and realize that your partisan slip is showing as usual. Since you can&#039;t even keep your own promises. Like never returning to this site again according to your drama queen send off article.

&quot;The Tea Party 4.0 threatens to be an armed insurrection utilizing various militias, not all of whom operate under the kindest of motives.&quot;

You&#039;re mental. Up your dosage, change your meds. NO ONE HAS CONDONED ARMED INSURRECTION. Except for you trying to cast a false image of the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Instead of looking in the mirror to their own contributions to the housing troubles, debt crisis and their own responsibility for the state of the elected officials in Washington (voter apathy, low voter turnout, one-issue campaigns, negative campaigning, selection by soundbite), they admittedly went looking for someone to blame.&#8221;</p>
<p>So let me get this straight. Someone who PAID their mortgage, had no credit debt, lost the value of their homes, is responsible for the failure? What a moron. Casting a blanked of responsibility over everyone but those who actually deserve it. But then again coming from someone who condones public harassment I&#8217;m not surprised. Why do you HATE your fellow Americans? Oh yeah… because they don&#8217;t agree with you. Look in the mirror yourself for a change and realize that your partisan slip is showing as usual. Since you can&#8217;t even keep your own promises. Like never returning to this site again according to your drama queen send off article.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Tea Party 4.0 threatens to be an armed insurrection utilizing various militias, not all of whom operate under the kindest of motives.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re mental. Up your dosage, change your meds. NO ONE HAS CONDONED ARMED INSURRECTION. Except for you trying to cast a false image of the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link to the article. I had read it, which is why I posted this article.  They don&#039;t understand the complete movement. The next evolution of the Tea Party is to kick the GOP out of its ranks or not.

Ronald Reagan is not a god to the Tea Party. Ronald Reagan is a god to the GOP.  The key to understand is that the GOP is attempting to co-opt the Tea Party.  If that happens it will be because the Tea Party movement has failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to the article. I had read it, which is why I posted this article.  They don&#8217;t understand the complete movement. The next evolution of the Tea Party is to kick the GOP out of its ranks or not.</p>
<p>Ronald Reagan is not a god to the Tea Party. Ronald Reagan is a god to the GOP.  The key to understand is that the GOP is attempting to co-opt the Tea Party.  If that happens it will be because the Tea Party movement has failed.</p>
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